| MyFriend: | hey |
| Leandro: | hey |
| MyFriend: | from glenn beck this morning: |
| MyFriend: | "Could we get some nonscumbag Republicans in office? Is that possible? Is that possible? I'm sorry. Alleged scumbags." |
| MyFriend: | he was referring to the senator who got caught in the toilet soliciting a cop |
| Leandro: | The same one that was trash talking Clinton for having a private moment in a private location. |
| Leandro: | The hypocrasy of the Republicans is vomit enducing. |
| MyFriend: | so u see that glenn gives them equal heat |
| MyFriend: | that's my point |
| Leandro: | Admirable. |
| Leandro: | What is Glenn's opinion of homosexuals in general, and then equality for all citizens meaning federal rights to homosexuals. |
| Leandro: | Discrimination. |
| MyFriend: | hang on |
| MyFriend: | sec |
| MyFriend: | i thought i had told u what his position was...he's very balanced and fair as i see it....today he was talking about it on his show and basically he was saying "nobody cares if he's gay or not....nobody should care about a person's sexual orientation as long as they r good members of society" |
| MyFriend: | that's in a nutshell...i can't summarize the one hour he spoke about the whole thing |
| MyFriend: | but you can read his opinion about this particular scandal here: |
| MyFriend: | http://www.glennbeck.com/news/08282007a.shtml |
| Leandro: | I understand that. |
| Leandro: | That shows that he doesn't believe people should care, but does he as a person think that society should have equal rights ? |
| MyFriend: | yes, but not marriage as society has seen it for a thousand years....equal rights, yes.....we had this discussion before, so please don't start with the whole marriage thing again....you believe in one thing, others do not....it's a no solution subject just like abortion |
| Leandro: | I'm just wondering if he believe in equal rights for homosexuals. |
| Leandro: | apparently he doens't |
| Leandro: | Just trying to get a feel for him and his opinions. |
| MyFriend: | that depends on ur definition of equal rights...which is the activist view |
| Leandro: | I didn't know there was another definition for the world equal or the word rights. |
| Leandro: | If I can't do what my dad can do, then we are not equal. |
| MyFriend: | there are many gays who don't share the marriage crusade of other gays |
| Leandro: | Its a very simple concept. |
| MyFriend: | like i said, u see it differently |
| Leandro: | Let me ask you two simple question. Do you believe equailty is an important social factor? |
| MyFriend: | unfortunately every time an issue is discussed with gays, the issue of marriage has to come up, which makes people not want to discuss it, because marriage is the ever so live-or-die accomplishment of that crusade....and u don't realize how much that stops the dialogue of so many other matters....it has become an obsession |
| MyFriend: | a very time consuming one |
| Leandro: | Do you believe equailty is an important social factor? |
| Leandro: | It is something worth fighting for? |
| MyFriend: | i don't believe humans will ever be all equal, no |
| MyFriend: | it's not in human nature |
| Leandro: | I'll take that as a no, equality is not an imporant social factor. |
| Leandro: | which answers my second question |
| MyFriend: | i wrote no |
| MyFriend: | and it's not worth becoming obsessed with it, to the extremism point |
| Leandro: | And gives me insite into your Conservative mind. Which happens to be anti-progress from a social equality topic. |
| MyFriend: | while it may be a nice dream, it's unachievable |
| Leandro: | pessimistic |
| MyFriend: | the "progressive" movement as u know it is liberalism in disguise |
| Leandro: | progress MyFriend? |
| Leandro: | You've made progress in your life through hard work and getting your papers. |
| MyFriend: | two different things |
| MyFriend: | not the same |
| Leandro: | A progressive is a person who fights for progress with an optomistic outlook on what can be with hard work. |
| MyFriend: | i'm a realist |
| MyFriend: | not someone living in a cloud |
| Leandro: | On the topic of equality, you seem to take a pessimistic approach, leaving many humans behind. |
| MyFriend: | hard work? u mean the one that will pay for those in society who don't want to work? |
| Leandro: | Not a very compassionaite stance. |
| Leandro: | Thats a different topic. |
| MyFriend: | it's not, compassion can only be given for so long |
| Leandro: | Equality and socialism are topics that have no overlap. |
| MyFriend: | yes they do....socialism promotes equality |
| Leandro: | The approach you're displaying would of kept blacks in slavery. |
| MyFriend: | in socialism u have to give to others so they can be more equal to you |
| MyFriend: | of course u would bring up slavery...that's the "marriage" word for blacks |
| Leandro: | Salvery is just another form of in-equality. It is a more extreme form, but a form nevertheless. |
| MyFriend: | ok |
| Leandro: | I'm bringing it up because it fits the bill. |
| MyFriend: | i gtg |
| Leandro: | no hard feelings. :) |
| Leandro: | ttyl |
Ah, another Christian horror story.
Don't get me wrong, this could of happened to any other group, including a secular or even atheist group, but the irony and hipocracy wouldn't be the same. That's all.
